Dish Washer - Lease or Buy

[the _sauce]

We have an old (very old it emerged) Hobart slide in slide out washer which had started spewing water out of the base. Got the engineer round and he, in his own words, nearly fainted as he had never seen one so old - he checked for parts and its seems they became obsolete 17 years ago - nice.

I will probably go for a leased new one -the theory being that it will always have a warranty - an hoping for about £15/week - am I totally misguided - any thoughts?

[P&A Services Ltd]

We supply dishwashers and do sometime do so on lease, however on a lease purchase (i'm not aware of anywhere that will lease hire) the machine will only have the standard warranty!

It sounds like you've had more then your moneys worth out of your old machine if it went obsolete 17 years ago, (probably making the machine upto/over 30 years old) one thing i will say is don't expect any new machines to last anywhere near that long, Even the top machines such as Mekio, Winterhalter or Hobart (not a fan of Hobart myself) will only last 10 years or so if maintained well.

It may well be worth looking into a slightly lower spec machine such as a Classeq (A winterhalter company), it should last around 3/4 of the life of the top machines but will only cost a little over half the amount. Provided your not hammering the machine then a classeq should be prefect ( i would recommend going for a top spec machine if your going to hammer it).

I hope that helps a little, let me know if you want any further information.

[the _sauce]

We supply dishwashers and do sometime do so on lease, however on a lease purchase (i'm not aware of anywhere that will lease hire) the machine will only have the standard warranty!

It sounds like you've had more then your moneys worth out of your old machine if it went obsolete 17 years ago, (probably making the machine upto/over 30 years old) one thing i will say is don't expect any new machines to last anywhere near that long, Even the top machines such as Mekio, Winterhalter or Hobart (not a fan of Hobart myself) will only last 10 years or so if maintained well.

It may well be worth looking into a slightly lower spec machine such as a Classeq (A winterhalter company), it should last around 3/4 of the life of the top machines but will only cost a little over half the amount. Provided your not hammering the machine then a classeq should be prefect ( i would recommend going for a top spec machine if your going to hammer it).

I hope that helps a little, let me know if you want any further information.

I leased a DHR n t 11 for three years - works out about £25 / week

[Stu]

I would be very interested to hear what deals you could get and have not heard of lease deals being that cheap. Most of the lease deals where they own the equipment is for the more expensive high end models and from my experience very costly.

There are plenty of lease deals on the net but you will probably find that they are buy lease deals. You also need to find out about the warranties because a 4-year lease-buy deal could have a 1-year parts and labour warranty. A typical warranty upgrade for a lease of 3 or 4 years would be around 30 - 40% of the list price, which on a typical £2000.00 unit could be as much as £1500.00 on top.

I'm sure one of the catering engineers will back us up on this, but we have found across the board the standard of dishwashers is not as good nowdays and I can't imagine and commercial unit lasting 20 years.

Let me know if you have any specific requirements that you need further info on.

Regards

[the _sauce]

I would be very interested to hear what deals you could get and have not heard of lease deals being that cheap. Most of the lease deals where they own the equipment is for the more expensive high end models and from my experience very costly.

There are plenty of lease deals on the net but you will probably find that they are buy lease deals. You also need to find out about the warranties because a 4-year lease-buy deal could have a 1-year parts and labour warranty. A typical warranty upgrade for a lease of 3 or 4 years would be around 30 - 40% of the list price, which on a typical £2000.00 unit could be as much as £1500.00 on top.

I'm sure one of the catering engineers will back us up on this, but we have found across the board the standard of dishwashers is not as good nowdays and I can't imagine and commercial unit lasting 20 years.

Let me know if you have any specific requirements that you need further info on.

Regards

yes - its about 25 /week and the way I figures it the lease itself would guarantee the functioning of the machine
as it is on a permanent guarantee as it is "not yours" as it were. Its nice to have a machine that doesn't spew water all over the floor. Its on less aswell so that may save on electric etc. it has a larger capacity than the previous one

[Boggy]

I'm still learning all the tech stuff so does a slide in and slide out one mean the same as a pass through dishwasher?

[P&A Services Ltd]

I would be very interested to hear what deals you could get and have not heard of lease deals being that cheap. Most of the lease deals where they own the equipment is for the more expensive high end models and from my experience very costly.

There are plenty of lease deals on the net but you will probably find that they are buy lease deals. You also need to find out about the warranties because a 4-year lease-buy deal could have a 1-year parts and labour warranty. A typical warranty upgrade for a lease of 3 or 4 years would be around 30 - 40% of the list price, which on a typical £2000.00 unit could be as much as £1500.00 on top.

I'm sure one of the catering engineers will back us up on this, but we have found across the board the standard of dishwashers is not as good nowdays and I can't imagine and commercial unit lasting 20 years.

Let me know if you have any specific requirements that you need further info on.

Regards

yes - its about 25 /week and the way I figures it the lease itself would guarantee the functioning of the machine
as it is on a permanent guarantee as it is "not yours" as it were. Its nice to have a machine that doesn't spew water all over the floor. Its on less aswell so that may save on electric etc. it has a larger capacity than the previous one

Who is leasing dishwashers at £25 a week? I can't see how they can at that price, it would take at least 3 year for them to recover the cost of the machine alone let alone make any profit, plus if they are offering maintained machines at that price by the time you add in the cost of a annual service and contingency for any repairs that may be needed!The figures just don't add up!

If it's a price you been quoted i'd snap their hands off, otherwise i think you will find that there will be a fair few unmentioned extras involved in the deal.

To answer Boggy's Question, yes a "slide in, slide out" dishwasher is a term often used to describe a hood type machine. I've heard them called all sorts over the years, it's hard to tell what some people are asking for sometimes, with all the strange names people have for things!

[the _sauce]

I was talking to the bloke who set up the deal today - it was his first transaction for
the company and he was new in the job - he claims he mucked it up and I got it way cheaper than I shoould
have done - even though I don't think its that great as it is

still - hey ho